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Thursday, May 26, 2011

Nino Burjanadze agrees that killing 100-500 people is "Ok" if it brings her to power in Georgia

Georgian Interior Ministry released a recording of the conversation that allegedly took place between the oppositionist Nino Burjanadze and her son Anzor Bitsadze. They discussed the possibility of fomenting civil war in Georgia and agreed with each other that to achieve their goals it is allowed to have "the Egyptian scenario” and the death of 100-500 people”, summed up their conversation Georgian Interior Ministry.

Disclosure of records occurred after a night of riots, during which two policemen were killed in an accident with Nino Burjanadze’s husband and her son's car while they were leaving the protest area. There is a video that clearly shows how Nino Burjanadze’s husband car deliberately hits two policemen, kills them and doesn’t stop afterwards. (in the bottom of this post) President Mikhail Saakashvili accused Russia of organizing this "bloody night." In fact Nino Burjanadze, regularly goes to Moscow and as the opposition leaders meets with Russian authorities.

Oppositionists were expected to gather for their mass action around 30,000 protesters. However they managed to gather only 2000-3000 people. And many of those protesters were actually hired people for 5-10 dollars per day. According to Bitsadze, (Burjanadze’s son) the army is weak and will not stop them. For example, a battalion of Special Forces Kodzhory hardly dare to shoot at protesters, and if they will, after the first shot they will be attacked by Russian special forces “GRU”. Georgian Interior Ministry claims that the GRU they meant refers to the Russian military intelligence special group.

In addition, the transcript shows, although in general conversation was conducted in Georgian, some words were borrowed from the Russian language - for example, "all", "general" and "at-large." 
Their conversation translated into the Russian language is placed in the blog information and analytical portal "Georgia Online». NB - Nino Burjanadze, AB - Anzor Bitsadze. 

English translation of the conversation between Nino Burjanadze and her son Anzor Bitsadze is below:

AB Nino, yesterday I thought for a long time ... or maybe not for long ... and now offer you such a thing: and in one week you can make a decision, and we’ll have "The Georgian party", or whatever ...

(...) AB We can still happen. If you take the responsibility, then why not decide on the civil war.

(...) AB On the death of 100 people, and even 500.

NB Yes indeed.

AB All nations that have achieved something, their land soaked with blood.

NB This land is also sufficient soaked (with blood).

AB Is that enough, it's not quite true. 200 years of blood is shed. Then you should know that if you start the process, there is one person breaks a leg and two heads are cut off, then this is it! ("All" - says in Russian) ... There you will not be back up. And the fact that 40% support Saakashvili - I have nothing wrong with it. If they (the government) had the brain to think then the revolution would not be necessary. On the basis of which they claim 40%? Is 40% say they will vote for Saakashvili?

NB Well, now so thoroughly, I do not know, but I was told so.

AB Do you think this is real?

NB I do not know Anzoriko, we are still moving in our own circle.

AB How much support do we have?

NB Who are "we"?

AB Revolutionaries.

NB 35 (%) dissatisfied, and 15 (%) are supported directly.

AB What do you want to then? Fifty-Fifty (Fifty-Fifty "is pronounced in Russian)

NB Well, yes, really well. Society is divided and in relation to Russia: 50 to 50.

AB That's why I say - Caucasian Chalk Circle. 50% of the country which was in war with Russia just two years ago, is it a little?

NB No, not a little, but too much. Feeling of hostility against Russian, 50% in general ("general" says in Russian) is totally absent.

AB How much support closer ties with Russia?

NB Have closer relationship supported by almost all.

AB And pro-Russian (in Russia) is 50%, right?

NB You know what, I do not want to cheat you, but in any case, it is clear that society is polarized. That's one person told me " on the one hand, relations with Russia partly harmed you, but on the other hand, he say (the society), almost split 50/50.

AB Will 30 000 people come out?

NB I think that much more. Oh how we need it!

AB That (number), fill in Freedom Square? And then let (someone) who comes to count how many they were 30 or 70 thousand.
NB Oh how we need it ...
AB Hopefully we have time, Nino? They do not need anything, the next day after the (money) transfer, I believe that it is all! ("All" - says in Russian). And  everyone is silent ...

NB Who? “nazi”?

AB Yes.

NB They are waiting to see what we’ll do. They are now in a difficult situation. At large (at-large, "says in Russian), we're going, and really they can’t find fault with us.

AB They can find videos and other stuff, and (we) will catch us on this one. Here and may be now, if they are listening us

AB We will have the Egyptian scenario. The interim government should be in any case. Why do you want then this Committee? Power of the Committee: - declare curfew ("curfew" - speaks in Russian) - and a state of emergency. But in Egypt it was over in three months and it settled down (again), tourists came back there, but they have strong army.

NB Yes, there's an army ...

AB Our Army, too, would have supported us, but why this is necessary, if it is such a weakling. In the army, a situation right now is oh-oh-oh!

NB Yes?

AB Oh no! What army? Forget about the army at all! (Spoken in Russian)

NB The police cannot defeat us. How do you think Kodzhorsky battalion would shoot at us?

AB No, it is such a stupidity. Kodzhorsky battalion may block the road, to block with a tank, but they will never shoot.

NB Why are you so sure?

AB You know what? If Kodzhorsky battalion will start shooting at me, I will handle the first attack. And then let him find out the relationship with the special forces of the GRU.( Russian military intelligence special group)


Nino Burjanadze confirmed to Georgia Online, the authenticity of the audio conversation with his son, but at the same time, noted that "phrases in the record are taken out of context." Interesting what “context” did she meant if she agreed that killing 30 or 70 civilians is “Ok”, civil war for 3 month in the country is “Ok”, involvement of Russian military special forces to attack Georgian Police is “OK”?

Video: Bitsadze and Burjanadze's escort cars rapidly leaving the Tbilisi downtown where they tried to arrange a riot. On their way they killed two Georgian policemen.